Giving credit where credit is due, I’d like to thank McCain for reigning in his followers. Keep it up, John!
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Giving credit where credit is due, I’d like to thank McCain for reigning in his followers. Keep it up, John!
Filed under: Politics and Other Nonsense
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Yeah, his supporters have been going completely psycho lately. At first I was really pissed that the Obama sign got stolen from my front yard. Now I’m still pissed but realizing I’m glad ALL they did was steal my sign. With the amount of rage coming out of them lately I’m fortunate they didn’t vandalize my house or car.
[...] Aunt Bee- “Keep it up John!” [...]
For the sake of disclosure, I haven’t made up my mind yet on who to vote for, so I’m not on either side. I find both candidates to have their good points and their not so good points.
With that said, I also have to say that I find the behavior of the McCain supporters you’re talking about outlandish and completely disorderly.
But on the other side, and I don’t hear this talked about often, is how the Obama camp supporters conduct themselves. I sat Tuesday night in a local bar/restaurant near my home. I was sitting with two Obama supporters, friends, one on each side of me. We got through the first part of the debate great. Everyone was listening and respectful.
Then 4 Obama supporters came into the establishment. I almost left, because of the behavior of these people. When Obama talked they listened and applauded when he gave his answers. When McCain spoke, they talked over him, interrupted with their own conjecture and basically acted like children. It was a pathetic thing to witness. Even the friends on each side of me were aggrevated with the spectacle.
I realize that’s not behavior indicative of all Obama supporters – as the behavior that you’re talking about from these McCain supporters is not representative of all of the people who back him for the Presidency.
My bottom line here is this: if you’re supporting a candidate, behave yourself as an adult. We have enough drama going on in this country on so many issues. Do we really need to fight amongst ourselves? We truly all want the same things… and although we have 2 candidates that have different road maps to the same destinations, I feel saddened that so many are acting like babies, kicking and screaming – or attacking.
Enough.
Here’s the thing Beth. There’s always going to be people on the extremes of either side of the isle. There are Obama supporters who behave far worse than merely “like children” as you recount from your debate experience. But you don’t see entire crowds of them gathering consistently at each Obama/Biden rally. That’s why you don’t hear it talked about as often.
On the McCain side there has also always been folks of the more extreme nature like what we’ve seen recently, but (as is the case on the Obama side) they weren’t the mainstream McCain supporter, and so you didn’t hear about it. It’s only been in the past few weeks (as McCain has decided to take his campaign completely negative), that we’ve seen this rage spill over into the mainstream McCain supporter. That’s why it’s making news; because it’s happening in large numbers and with consistency. What’s worse is that prior to the account B’s linking to, there have numerous rallies in which McCain or Palin have been present and let this kind of behavior occur without denouncing it.
The rage displayed by the McCain supporters in the story B links to is certainly not representative of all (or even most) McCain supporters, but in the last few weeks it has become much less confined to the extremists. While that shift from extremism to mainstream has been occurring, McCain and Palin have largely sat back and let it happen.
A commenter from Ezra’s house said it better than me:
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The only thing McCain deserves credit for is pissing in the wind as a token effort to put out the Santa Ana firestorm of hate that he and his shit-slinging minions started and continue to enthusiastically stoke. Declaring Obama guilty of terrorism by association implicitly carries with it the message that his election would endanger the country, and therefore any act that prevents his election is a patriotic act. Think of the killings in the Tennessee Unitarian church and the Arkansas Democratic headquarters. There is real, murderous anger out there. And if you think the McCain campaign and Beck/Coulter/Malkin/Limbaugh ad nauseum aren’t actively advocating for it to be taken to its logical conclusion, you’re living in a dream world.”
Posted by: CJ | October 11, 2008 1:29 AM
Beth, those four Obama supporters acted rudely in public, and I wish every on ‘our’ side would listen and think (and then criticize McCain). But did any of those people shout, “Babykiller!” or “Lynch the honkey!”? The problem with McCain supporters was not that they were ‘rude’.
Dolphin, in my own experience, no, I’ve not seen any on the Obama side. But, just last week I had an Obama supporter basically call me “stupid” because I hadn’t jumped on the Obama bandwagon. The person couldn’t grasp that I was taking my time to go over all the issues prior to casting my vote. Of course, this is one of those fly by night “oooh, it’s cool to be political” people who just registered to vote 4 years ago. I registered the day I was 18, because I didn’t need P. Diddy to tell me to “vote or die” or MTV to tell me to “Rock The Vote.” (For the record, I told him I didn’t discuss my voting record, that it was my own business, where did he get off thinking my choice was any of his business, and where I am from it’s poor manners to discuss whom a person votes for.)
Indifferent children: I never said that Obama supporters were tit for tat. I just said I wish we could have some civility. I think that covers all the bases.