I don’t have anything to say that hasn’t already been said by LeftWingCracker or SouthernBeale better.
I will articulate two things. 1. The guy who could have run, just as he is, as a conservative Democrat, won. The guy who could have run, just as he is, as a right-wing nutjob, lost. This means two things, I think. a.) That voters have some ideas about what being a Democrat means, even if Democrats like to pretend like it means whatever they refuse to say it does (ha) and recognized that Cobb was not it and b.) people with actual Democratic ideas can indeed win in more rural areas. Soundly. Too bad Marsh wasn’t running as a Democrat.
This should be the death-knell of both the “you have to be Republican-lite to win” and “Democratic ideas don’t translate to rural voters,” but I think we all know it will not be.
2. I continue to not shudder at the threat of Democrats being redistricted out of existence, if their only strategy is to continue to act like Republicans. If there is no difference, there is no difference, folks. That’s just a fact of life.
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[...] AuntB [...]
The irony of this is staggering. Everyone in the Nashville political culture gets offended by the negative stereotype of the typical rural backwoods Tennessee hick, but then they turn around and actually spend campaign funds and make major party decisions on the basis of that stereotype, only to finally wonder why reality failed to live up to their own dumbshit expectations.
We have a similar problem in Memphis, but it’s centered around a completely different stereotype. Sometimes I wish people would just wise up and drop all the bullshit, you know? But it’s never that easy.
This:
Everyone in the Nashville political culture gets offended by the negative stereotype of the typical rural backwoods Tennessee hick, but then they turn around and actually spend campaign funds and make major party decisions on the basis of that stereotype, only to finally wonder why reality failed to live up to their own dumbshit expectations.
Yes, yes, hell yes.
You hear prominent Dems all the time hopping up and down and repeating the mantra that “Tennessee is a Republican state.” People were parroting the received wisdom that “District 62 is too conservative.”
Couple of things: (1) I don’t want to hear this “Republican state” nonsense, because it isn’t. It’s an independent state, or at least it was up until the DP fucking gave up. Tennessee had gone with the winner of the presidential race pretty reliably up until recently. That means that it shifts with the political winds. (2) Who says District 62 is “too conservative?” The same shitheel wantwits who just delivered a loss in that district? “Too conservative” for what, exactly? To be treated like people with some intellect? Do we really need to act like the entire district is swayed by AM radio blather? Because that’s what we gave them – a red meat firebolt candidate pushing GOP hot buttons.
It’s just a different kind of smarts. People who have never lived in rural areas, not have family history from there, just don’t have a clue. I don’t really think the leadership in the TNDP has a clue. Maybe they should make a movie with Reese WItherspoon and raise big bucks.
I do wonder what this will mean for the Tennessee Right to Life folks. If they can’t deliver votes, don’t we look like assholes for kowtowing to them on sjr127?
*applause*
You know, it would be the easiest thing in the world for us to go into some of these communities, find out who the real local leaders are, and draft them to run as whatever kind of Democrat they think of themselves as being. Just make an end run around the whole party structure altogether.
It beats the hell out of running some friend of a friend of somebody in Phil Bredesen’s inner circle. And it’s not like we could screw it up any worse than they already have.
Andy, don’t you have some pretty extensive experience running a campaign? I’ve got plenty myself. It seems like between the dozen or so like-minded folks who like to come sit by the fire at Aunt B’s place, we could put together a pretty strong campaign staff.
On a side note, I am going to be smiling with delight at this notion of folks who like to come sit by my fire.
Aunt B: considering how enjoyable your conversation was at the SFoB, coming to sit by your fire sounds like a very pleasant evening ;p
i love how you crazy lefties really think you could win in a district like the 62nd, but fail repeatedly to even recruit a candidate or actually win in such a district. face it, you are irrelevant in tennessee politics. the only way you can prove your relevance is to stop blaming everyone else for your failures and actually win something in a conservative district. no excuses. no “obama didn’t win in tennessee because the mean democratic party tied our hands” or “a progressive liberal could have won if the mean state party hadn’t dashed our hopes”. give us a break and SHOW us what you can do. go into east tennessee, recruit a solid progressive that all of your fellow “progressives” can get behind (doubtful in itself since you all tear each other apart regularly and play the “moral equivalency” game with each other constantly) and win it. until you get off your butts, stop bitching, and get something done to show the everyone what you can do, then you’ll continue to be irrelevant and just whine about it. step up to the plate and knock one out like you say you can. ready, set, go…
“Chrissy,” you know I can see who you are, right? Or at least what other names you comment under. If you want to look like a number of people critical of progressives in this state, you might ask some folks who know how you can do a better job of hiding the fact that those comments under different names are generated by the same person.
Just a thought.
You really should start outing the sock puppets more thorougly. It would save me wasting a lot of time wondering which ‘commenters’ belong to the same puppet master.
Bravo to autogeocrat for voicing the problem with the rural stereotype. As a former rural east Tennessean I’ve known that for years but never thought to put it into words that way.
yeah, but you can’t refute what i’m saying. admit it.
more excuses in 3,2,1…
Under which you? The one where you complain that progressives are ruining it for conservatives or the one where you complain that progressives are ruining it for the environment?
Of course no one can refute what sockpuppet is saying, since it hasn’t made a falsifiably evidence-based claim. Other than the claim of loving something, which I suppose must be taken to be true.
the one where you actually get off your ass and do something instead of just bitching, find a progressive candidate in a conservative district, and fight like hell to win alongside your “progressive” friends, and WIN something without any help from those you deem “unworthy” and no excuses. that one.
more excuses in 3,2,1…
“Chrissy,” or whatever the hell your name is, you can kiss my skinny white liberal ass. In the last four years, I’ve helped elect three progressive to the General Assembly, one to the Shelby County Commission, one to the U.S. Congress, and I ran the campaign to get IRV in Memphis, something even the people donating to my campaign said couldn’t be done. I don’t need to prove a damn thing. My electoral victories are a matter of record.
The only thing wrong with progressives in Tennessee is that they’ve spent too much time giving belly-dragging reptiles like you the time of day. Although, I will say, if you really want me to come out there and start kicking your sorry asses in some of these rural districts, that’s a challenge I’ll gladly accept.
memphis, shelby county, steve cohen. liberal campaigns in liberal districts. how tough. step up to the plate. you haven’t done it yet. i have no faith that you will. show us all how to do it. you’ve got a liberal candidate in a conservative district right now – brian kelsey’s. let’s see what whiners like yourself can really do. GO FIGHT WIN! Win one in Germantown! Do it on your own and show us how to do it!
More posturing and moral equivalency in 3,2,1…
i love how you [house democratic caucus blowhards] really think you could win in a district like the 62nd, but fail repeatedly to even recruit a [worthy]candidate or actually win in such a district. face it, you are irrelevant in tennessee politics.
Fixed.
You know, if the House Dem caucus, the Bredesen-Blue Dog axis, and their legion of sock puppet apologists is so masterful, go on. Prove it. Bring it. Then I’ll happily sit down & shut up.
You continually say “we need to move more to the right!” and continue to lose.
The only thing that you have to stand on in the last decade is, “Bredesen won 95 districts!” Yep. We have so much to show for it! No House majority, no Senate majority, a field of gubernatorial candidates whose presumptive front-runner has the sole qualification of being named McWherter, a party that routinely flirts with bankruptcy, and why? Well, it must be the complainers! Right.
In your heart, you know that your slender margin of hope hinges on the SUPPORT OF THE WHINY PROGRESSIVES WHOSE NUMBERS EMPOWER YOU TO SUCK SO BAD. We always, always, always have been going along to get along, donating to your suck-ass candidates, knocking on doors for your suck-ass candidates, phone banking for your suck-ass candidates, plastering the name of your suck-ass candidates on our bumpers, blogging in support of your suck-ass candidates, paying for yard signs out of pocket rather than drawing down the reserves for your suck-ass candidates, we give cover to your suck-ass candidates when you sell out the base, and keep voting for your suck-ass candidates who continually tack to the right with a wink and a nudge. Because where are we going to go?
You’d think that was the biggest “fuck you” possible. But no. Now we don’t even get the wink or the nudge – we’re just supposed to support the brand while y’all are out tarnishing it all the time, calling some of your most loyal constituents and activists idiots for supporting things that all Democrats should be allowed to support (like Obama, like verifiable voting, like health care, like a living wage, like abortion rights, like equality for all; you know, things that are in the platform and that are in the political DNA of a lot of the membership).
(Hey, did Knox County ever get their donor list off of index cards and into Excel? Just curious. They’ve been working on that for about a decade now.)
Y’all kept saying that Dist 62 was going to show us how things were going to go in 2010. If that’s the case, God bless you because someone’s going to have to.
Being a Democrat is supposed to stand for something. Y’all’s only principle is winning, and you can’t even manage that.
we tried. now its your turn since you know why we lost. you liberals know so much, you can really do it! now is your chance! you can show us all how a “progressive” can win in a conservative district. a liberal candidate has materialized in a +13 republican district. lead us to victory! you don’t lead by talking, you lead by DOING. SHOW everyone how it is done and they will do it. we anxiously await your leadership.
or your excuses and holier-than-thou bellyaching in 3,2,1…
But don’t you get it? The more liberal candidate DID win in District 62.
Rather than play this tired game with you any longer, I’ll just sum this up this way.
From your vehemence and pointless exercise in intellectual dishonesty, I’m guessing that your livelihood is tied to the success of the incumbent Democratic establishment.
Mine isn’t.
So suck on it.
You get to succeed or fail all on your own. Me, I’ll likely still have the same job after November 2010. I have nothing at stake other than a desire to see Democrats do more than act like they give a shit about their base when they don’t need a donation.
The more liberal candidate won the so-called “conservative district” while the candidate backed by TN Right to Life lost.
Sock puppet head exploding in 3,2,1…
is THIS your excuse for doing nothing to help the liberal challenger for kelsey’s seat? Wow, this is a new low for you Aunt B. I mean I must say, you’ve always been very good at coming up with really good, plausible excuses for not getting off your ass, but you can’t even do that now. Please work on that a little harder and come up with some better excuses and validation for your laziness in the upcoming special election that includes the liberal candidate you have always SAID you were looking for but didn’t get off your ass to recruit yourself.
Or you could just dispense with the excuses and actually work for the liberal messiah you’ve been waiting for. We won’t hold our breath. You like complaining too much. Its like republicans and roe v. wade. If you were ever actually successful, the joy of bitching would be taken from you.
More distractions and reasons not to get involved await in 3,2,1…
Hold on. What? I thought you were fighting with Andy and Autoegocrat and Eleanor A.
You’re trying to pick a fight with me?!
Y’all need to decide. If I only matter because of who reads me, then you just need to fight with who reads me. If the word now is that I do matter, but I’m too lazy to take seriously, you’re going to have to give me a minute to adjust to the new state of affairs.
Ha, can the Democrats not even come to a consensus on how to deal with little ole me?
You’re easy enough to deal with, Aunt B. I’ve figured you and your liberal friends out. You like to gripe and tell everyone else how it should be and what THEY should be doing, but when it comes time to lead on your own or put your backbone where your mouth is you’re nowhere to be found. I haven’t seen one post from you supporting or requesting support for the liberal challenger for kelsey’s vacated House seat. This is our chance to lead the revolution! Why won’t you simply get behind the candidate you’ve been waiting for? “Be the change you wish to see” in Tennessee politics! Anything less just cements your irrelevance. Why won’t you lead?
More moderately entertaining drivel instead of real leadership in 3,2,1…
And you think I don’t get you? How you define what action is appropriate and what you’re going to recognize as being legitimate and then you ignore all the people who are doing things so that you can try to hold me accountable for not doing what you want?
Not to be third grade about it, but you’re not the boss of me.
And I’m not some great progressive leader, which I imagine is why the people who are doing something like to hang out here and talk shop–because I’m not nagging them to do what I want.
But please, continue to lash out and count backwards and make an ass of yourself. It reminds me why I swore off trying to work with the party.
when it comes time to lead on your own or put your backbone where your mouth is you’re nowhere to be found.
::guffaw::
Fucking hilarious.
Were you looking around in a DP office, or are you scanning a five-inch perimeter around your keyboard?
I’ve figured you and your liberal friends out.
Damn. Did Glenn Beck drop the dime on us?
Keep mocking the “liberals” that are at the core of the DP constituency. You don’t need us. You have it aaaaaaaaaaaall under control. Got it.
It’s like they think we don’t notice that they mock and marginalize us for not participating in the ways they want. And then when we do participate in the ways they want (like raising them money), they find ways to mock and marginalize us.
At this point, the fact that someone even still bothers to come around to mock and insist upon my marginalization is pretty fucking hilarious.
Its not what I want, its what YOU want. You state it clearly in your posts and you reinforce it in your comments as do your readers. However, you have done nothing to actually take the initiative when you have the chance to actually DO it. You won’t throw your public support or energy behind a liberal candidate in a conservative district in Germantown. You won’t refute Kleinheider’s assertion that the race is a lost cause for a liberal candidate. But at the same time you and other liberal bloggers write post after post about how a more liberal candidate should have been recruited for 62 and cite that as your reasoning for sitting 62 out. If you are truly interested in changing the party, then you would take that initiative, help unite liberal bloggers around a liberal candidate, and SHOW the party how its done. Instead, you just gripe, wonder why the party doesn’t listen to you, and “swear off” trying to work with anyone who doesn’t want to listen to your empty griping. Liberal blogging, and your very popular blog in particular, could be something more than just griping about what didn’t work. It could be a way to move tennessee politics forward by SHOWING the old guard how to do it. THAT is leadership. All else is just destructive chatter about those who actually tried and, yes, failed.
You all have the intelligence, skills, and assets to actually do what you say should be done, but you’re unwilling to risk failure to try doing it yourself, all by yourself. Until you do, no one but other gripers will listen to you and no one but actual doers, no matter how well they do it, will be in charge. And you will continue to gripe about those in charge and how they do it.
It’s like they think we don’t notice that they mock and marginalize us for not participating in the ways they want. And then when we do participate in the ways they want (like raising them money), they find ways to mock and marginalize us.
Ask Bob Titley how that works. You can bring an energetic, involved, concerned, monied, and high profile constituency to the table, only to be told to fork over the money, sit down, be quiet, and take dictation.
You can even follow the rules and by-laws to the letter and be mocked. You could become a delegate and be strongarmed when you try to cast your vote for the candidate that you were bound to support. You could declare your intent to run in a primary only to have someone co-opting your donors. Maybe you could even win a primary only to have it vacated in a kangaroo proceeding.
You can always feel free to support a constituency, so long as you’re not too black, too Hispanic, too union, too female, too liberal, too Yankee, or too gay. Don’t be too smart, either. And for fucking sure, don’t be betray any sort of independence.
Funny how that never applies to being too white, male, corporate, Southern, conservative, or marginally literate. Preferably you’re related to someone who was a legislator or appointee.
It’s forever a game of Calvinball with these people.
At this point, the fact that someone even still bothers to come around to mock and insist upon my marginalization is pretty fucking hilarious.
And predictable. “3, 2, 1…”
Andy, why keep bitching about “they” and worrying about what “they” do? Its about what YOU do. Your comment is all gripe about how the mean party people “coopted” and “mocked” and “marginalized” you. That’s par for the course in any endeavor in which you are trying to change the established order. Its tough. Any worthwhile endeavor is, get over it. Stop whining and take the chance to show others what you can do in the face of adversity while the state party ignores the situation. Right now the state party has made it a policy to stay out of the special election in Germantown because they think a liberal candidacy is a hopeless endeavor. What better time to take the opportunity and show what can be accomplished by liberals in a conservative republican district all on their own with no interference from the state party? If you succeed in the face of a +13 republican advantage or even make it close by beating the index by 8 or 9 points, then I GUARANTEE you the floor will be yours. Unless liberals take this opportunity, they will be considered all talk.
That’s what Andy’s talking about. You set the terms, you set the challenge, you set the rules, you tell us what we want, and then piss and moan about what failures we are because we don’t have any interest in playing.
And now you’re trying to sound all reasonable and like you’re just truth-talking and trying to have a legitimate conversation. Like we all forgot how you came into this thread all nasty and pissy and not even willing to stick to one name?
“The people who comment at Tiny Cat Pants won’t do what I tell them to; they must not really be committed Democrats.” might fly when you’re complaining about us, but it’s not going to fly when you’re complaining to us.
The truth is the truth no matter who says it, and the truth here is that if liberals do not take the initiative to prove themselves when they have the opportunity then they can’t be taken seriously by anyone, let alone the state party. YOU have the chance to set the rules, and YOU have the chance to have what you want in this special election. In short, you have the chance to rise above the pettiness and marginalization that you so often gripe about.
Bitching about the “rules” or who sets them never gets you anywhere in politcs or in life in general. If you choose to kill the messenger or ignore the truth because of its context, then you are neither mature enough or courageous enough to take the reigns of power in the first place. That is simply a fact.
So, not only do you barge in to complain to me because you want to appoint me leader and then bitch at me for not leading, you didn’t actually read what anyone else here was saying.
And you want to be taken seriously.
Please.
At this point, you should just get your own blog and make your great pronouncements from there, rather than using my comments to advance your cause of advancing the cause you’ve made up for me.
Hold on, you’re complaining about someone “barging in” when you have a blog that’s open to all? If you want to go against your own principles of a free market of ideas, then ban me. If you don’t want to hear the truth then ignore me.
And you want to be taken seriously when you say its “not your cause” when it was you who posted this in the first place and “articulated” your view that a more liberal candidate should be chosen for a conservative district?
You are now denying ownership of an issue which you raised because you simply don’t have the courage to follow through with any action. It only reinforces the notion that your blog and many others are bastions of hollow chatter that don’t amount to a hill of beans. Unfortunate.
Andy, why keep bitching about “they” and worrying about what “they” do? Its about what YOU do.
As I said before, it’s not my salary on the line.
Gotta say, though, if it was my paymasters that were staking my livelihood on that losing strategy being pursued in 62, I’d be thinking long and hard about my own career choices. YOU do what YOU want to. That’s on YOU. YOU can join that suicide pact if YOU want to.
You’re really that worried about B.’s popularity and credibility? What the hell difference does it make to you if she’s just the ass-sitting-do-nothing crank that you said that she was?
You’ve got this all under control and me, her, Autoegocrat, Eleanor, nm, sueyyyyy… we’re just all talk. Fine. Get off the blogs, ignore us do-nothing liberal cranks. Work your side of the street. Impress me. Go get someone elected. For once, win something.
You really should be more worried about your own credibility.
“You’re really that worried about B.’s popularity and credibility? What the hell difference does it make to you if she’s just the ass-sitting-do-nothing crank”
it makes no difference to anyone.
“For once, win something”
sounds like you have all the answers. i’m leaving it up to you then. i’ll check back and see how your liberal candidate does in the special election for kelsey’s seat.
“You really should be more worried about your own credibility.”
which is obviously zero since 62 was lost bad. that’s why we need folks like you to step up and teach. will you have the intestinal fortitude to stick your neck out and lead? if not, its ok. you could always just gripe instead. carry on.
Why would I ban you? That’s hilarious. You can’t make any headway with your pissing and moaning and acting like an asshole, so you’re trying to martyr yourself now–”go ahead, just ban me.”
You have to be, quite possibly, the least effective arguer in the history of argument. You haven’t bothered to actually read anything anyone’s written here; you’ve just ascribed ideas to us and then complained when we don’t do what you want.
Do you not get that you’ve been acting like an enormous asshole since the beginning of this conversation and that is, in part, why you’re being met with such hostility?
You’re not talking to anyone who hasn’t said to the Democratic leadership, to their faces, “We’re glad to help,” only to have that ignored and mocked. We’ve all had our money taken and then had the door slammed in our faces.
And now you come skulking around here, “Why don’t you do something about Kelsey?”
Because you guys are tired of losing and having no one to blame? Fuck no, I’m not going to set myself up to be your scapegoat. I’m an idiot about a lot of things, but I’m not an idiot about that.
Oh, was face it, you are irrelevant in tennessee politics supposed to mean we need folks like you to step up and teach? I guess my reading comprehension really is bad.
You already set yourself up, Auntie, by calling for recruitment of more liberal candidates in conservative districts. Well guess what, its happened, and now you still refuse to lift a finger. You have now said so clearly and publicly. Thank you for the admission. You never were nor never will be a scapegoat, but the fact that you frame yourself as such speaks volumes.
This has actually been a very enlightening and effective argument for all of your readers, commenters, and lurkers. Thank you for the opportunity. A good day to all.
nm,
no, it meant that until you do stand up and teach, you will continue to be irrelevant. good day.
What are you even talking about? I swear, if the people this has been enlightening for would speak up and explain what the hell happened here, I would appreciate it.
You make up some crap, hold me accountable for it, ignore everyone who tries to refute your ever-changing points ,and then you declare victory and leave?
Is this some kind of performance art piece?
Oh, so you’re saying that it’s your writing clarity that’s at fault. Because the words you have used in various comments never actually do mean the things you later come back and say they mean. Sort of like what everyone else is saying about trying to read you — and you agree. Thanks for clearing that up.
it makes no difference to anyone.
So you were just full of shit when you were saying that B.’s blog suffers because it improperly uses its popularity to tear down the Losing McLosersons in the incumbency, then. Check.
sounds like you have all the answers. i’m leaving it up to you then. i’ll check back and see how your liberal candidate does in the special election for kelsey’s seat.
Must have missed where someone had committed to doing that.
will you have the intestinal fortitude to stick your neck out and lead? if not, its ok. you could always just gripe instead. carry on.
Well, since finally we have your permission, let nothing stand in our way! Let the bitchfest commence!
I’ll tell you what went on here, Aunt B. I read this comment by autoegocrat on your post early on:
“You know, it would be the easiest thing in the world for us to go into some of these communities, find out who the real local leaders are, and draft them to run as whatever kind of Democrat they think of themselves as being. Just make an end run around the whole party structure altogether.
It beats the hell out of running some friend of a friend of somebody in Phil Bredesen’s inner circle. And it’s not like we could screw it up any worse than they already have.
Andy, don’t you have some pretty extensive experience running a campaign? I’ve got plenty myself. It seems like between the dozen or so like-minded folks who like to come sit by the fire at Aunt B’s place, we could put together a pretty strong campaign staff.”
And I said to myself, “that’s a DAMN good idea – something I might want to be a part of.” But then I thought to myself, “but if I wanted to get involved with something of that nature and devote my time to such an endeavor I would want to know that the folks who I am allying myself with would be mature individuals who could stand the pressure of a campaign and not crack under pressure.” So I thought I would test the mettle of those involved with a good crazy right wing, “heatseeker”-like comment, and kept up the barrage until I got a clue of what these folks were like:
“i love how you crazy lefties really think you could win in a district like the 62nd, but fail repeatedly to even recruit a candidate or actually win in such a district. face it, you are irrelevant in tennessee politics. the only way you can prove your relevance is to stop blaming everyone else for your failures and actually win something in a conservative district. no excuses. no “obama didn’t win in tennessee because the mean democratic party tied our hands” or “a progressive liberal could have won if the mean state party hadn’t dashed our hopes”. give us a break and SHOW us what you can do. go into east tennessee, recruit a solid progressive that all of your fellow “progressives” can get behind (doubtful in itself since you all tear each other apart regularly and play the “moral equivalency” game with each other constantly) and win it. until you get off your butts, stop bitching, and get something done to show the everyone what you can do, then you’ll continue to be irrelevant and just whine about it. step up to the plate and knock one out like you say you can. ready, set, go…”
And now you all believe that the whole thing is a lost cause that is not worth your time and effort for a scapegoat ending, all because the same exact idea came from a conservative asshole commenter. I have determined that you are too reactionary for my time, but it was a good idea that you had nonetheless.
sometimes performance art can be very enlightening.
Oh, was “face it, you are irrelevant in tennessee politics” supposed to mean “we need folks like you to step up and teach?”
No, the first one was sincere and the second sarcastic. The incumbency no more wants input from liberal constituents than they want H1N1.
Our resident concern troll and the people who pay him have this all under control. Now that the House Caucus/TNDP have implemented that losing strategy in District 62, their only viable option is to double down, because Lord knows no one else will ever be able to tell them any different.
“Hey, could YOU do any better? No? I double dog dare you! No? Then stop expressing your opinion!”
And now you all believe that the whole thing is a lost cause that is not worth your time and effort for a scapegoat ending, all because the same exact idea came from a conservative asshole commenter. I have determined that you are too reactionary for my time, but it was a good idea that you had nonetheless.
Instead of all of that kabuki (and forgive me if I doubt your sincerity at this point), you could have said, “Hey, that’s a good idea! Tell me more!”
Oh, please, sockpuppet. Disingenuous much?
“Hey, that’s a good idea! Tell me more!”
and risk getting involved again with another progressive campaign that runs out of steam and disappears because everyone gets mad at each other and acts really doggone petty about silly things and perceived slights or “not liberal enough” judgements of each other? please. i’ve been through the whole Dean For America/Democracy For America gauntlet. everyone who shares my liberal political views seems to be controlled by their reactions to others rather than their an inner action-oriented center of self. it seems the readers of this blog are no different. i’m looking to get politically involved again after a couple of years of staying away from local tennessee politics, but I don’t want to go through such a mess all over again. sorry. hopefully tennessee can get some more progressive-minded people who are also more stable.
Physician, heal thyself.
“Physician, heal thyself.”
will do.
I noticed that Sybil Sockpuppet, or whoever her pointless name is, didn’t deny she’s employed by or otherwise beholden to the state Party or some personage whose fortunes are tied thereto; my guess is Bredesen. The chickens are finally coming home to roost vis a vis his failure to leave much of a lasting political legacy behind. Of course, rather than offering ideas on how to fix things, it’s CYA. Again.
Actually, it’s not on us at all. It’s the job of the state Party to win elections. Hand me the offices, staff, personnel, and even the cast of characters populating the leadership of TNDP right now and you bet your lame ass I’ll kick it all over town. It’s not OUR job to do this – it’s YOURS.
A point you completely fail to grasp. You got nothing better than defensiveness and a bunch of reactionary sarcasm? Whatever. You’ve just more than proven our point – again. Gotta admit the joy went out of this a while ago, since it sucks to have one’s cynicism confirmed over and over and over again.
Not that this is any of your business, but I’ve done more for the Democratic Party than you’d ever do if you had half a million years.
I could lay it all out, but this doesn’t need to be about personality or bona fides – it needs to be about ideas, strategies and fixing what’s broken, on behalf of the seven million souls suffering under the pathetic lack of leadership in this fair state.
I gave up trying to work within the structure when it became utterly apparent the Party in Tennessee is not interested in contributions from anybody with ideas or experience – if said person isn’t a senior citizen, white, male, and adhering to the same old “we’ve always done things this way” ideology. I could throw in a few more observations about good-old-boy back room dealmaking, corruption and insularity, but some of those points have already been ably made in this thread.
Not that you’ll believe it, no matter what I say, but go ahead – knock yourself out. Find out for yourself what happens when you question what the so-called wise old heads tell you. This’d all be a different picture if the state Party, whose JOB it is to do this, were winning elections.
After reading all of this, I have nothing to add.
Damn, it’s good to be a liberal. Nice fire you’ve got going here, Aunt B. Got any hot cocoa?
Doesn’t “sockpuppet” know that we’re a coven and can put a hex on him/her?