Why Debunking Things Does No Good

These folks went to the effort of finding my photo and using it without permission, but did not bother to worry for one second about the words surrounding said photo. It is literally too good a story to pass up, even if someone demonstrates that you can’t just stuff a vodka-soaked tampon in your vagina with the same ease as taking a shot.

So, yes, I find it hilarious and sad that my photo debunking the vodka-shot myth is used to illustrate a story passing off the vodka-shot myth as true.

This is why we can’t have nice things, right here.

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31 thoughts on “Why Debunking Things Does No Good

  1. LOL! Well enjoy the free traffic that will come to your post from the picture. If you are upset that we used your pic and linked to your site and gave you credit we’ll certainly remove it. News is what we do and we had to cover the story because it definitely is, just too good to pass up.

  2. Joel,

    Did you miss the part where B’s picture clearly demonstrates that the story you ran is–at the most generous possible interpretation–highly implausible?

    I mean, obviously, you missed the part in kindergarten where they taught “don’t take other people’s things without asking first,” so I’m not holding out any huge hope for your reading comprehension at this stage, but still…

  3. @TEA Do you not own a blog? The way things work is, when people refer to your work, that’s how you get traffic. The picture in the article is getting hundreds of visitors and to be completely honest, it was an honor for us to link to and refer to Tiny Cat Pants. The internet is a set of links and that’s how blogging, news and social media works.

    I’ve never gotten so much crap for promoting someones site. You people are fucktards.

  4. @Joel
    Copyright law. Ur doin’ it rong. Contact an intellectual property attorney to learn what “the way things work is.”

    And you know very well that you’re not promoting B’s site–you stole her photo in order to say the exact opposite of what her photo demonstrates. That’s not an honor, that’s theft of intellectual property, and it’s a pretty shitty thing to do. Posting her photo is not actually the same thing as linking to her article.

  5. @TEA How exactly do you think that “B” knows I used the photo? Do you think she actually found it? NO, B knows the photo is there because it’s linked to this site. WordPress has what is called trackbacks and pingbacks. When someone links to your article references it and sends traffic you get a pingback notification. THIS is how “B” knew the photo was on our site, not to mention the traffic flowing into this site. If I would have “stolen” the photo I would have never linked or referred to this site. You seriously have no clue what you’re talking about. Go the article and see the CREDIT which credits this site, in addition, notice the photo is hyperlinked to b’s article. This is called blogging, networking and linking and you imbeciles are giving me shit for promoting B’s content. The way things rank on Google is by the amount of LINKS it gets, so all I did was help B rank for this terribly unscientific joke of a post. It’s a funny topic and it’s ridiculous you people act like you’re conducting scientific experiments when there are teens being admitted to emergency rooms and getting alcohol poisoning from stick this crap of their ass.

  6. @TEA Let me make this really simple for you in terms you can understand. We told B that we used the picture. Instead of picking up a telephone and saying hello B we’ve selected your picture to feature in our article, we sent a digital notification with a message that said, we used your photo, you can find it here.

  7. You all expected someone who steals something out of a stranger’s house, tries to justify that illegal act by saying, “Everybody does it!!” and then resorts to flinging words like “fucktards” and “imbeciles” at folks who point out the act, including the victim of it, to do something he should have learned in kindergarten and ask kindly, first, to share. That was your first mistake, good folks. You forgot that not everyone is principled and thoughtful, like you all are.

    As for you, Mr. Mackey, you classless, condescending twit, please keep in mind in the future that you are no more a journalist than my six-year-old niece. She not only can tell a story more accurately than you can, but she already understands the importance of proper source attribution (“Dylan told us that …”) AND that taking someone else’s property without their permission is wrong. She also already knows that “Everybody else does it!” is an excuse equal to “The dog did it.”

    I’m doing my best not to stoop to your level of ignorance, sir, but it is taking every bit of my self-control not to type “Oh, grow up, you thieving bastard.”

    Whoops. My apologies, B.

  8. B, I hope you’ll be making some form of a clueless copyright infringer bingo card out of this based on this excellent example. May I suggest mansplaining and “you should be happy for the traffic” as two common squares?

  9. This is literally the best comment thread that has ever been hosted at Tiny Cat Pants. I almost feel like I should just shut down my blog and walk away in triumph. If there were some way to do a victory lap on the internet, I would do it.

    Joel, bless your heart. No. Pretty much everything you’re saying is completely wrong. No kids have been admitted to emergency rooms. It’s an urban legend like rainbow parties. Just think about it for five seconds. It’s not a convenient way of delivering alcohol to your blood stream, otherwise, kids could just hold shots in their mouths and let the alcohol absorb through that mucous membrane and have a similar effect. And yet, they don’t. Why? Because “through mucous membrane” not actually a more efficient way of delivering alcohol to your body.

    So, if it’s not more efficient, what’s the other bullshit reason? Oh, right, because that way parents won’t smell it on kids. Here’s an experiment you can try at home. Dump half a shot of vodka on your crotch. Now drink half a shot. Have someone sniff your breath and your pants and see which smells less like alcohol.

    Neither an ass nor a vagina has a vacuum seal and if tampon makers could make tampons that didn’t leak, this would be a much different world. So, anything you put up there that’s liquid is coming back out. Lord, imagine if you sneeze.

    Second, I don’t really think that last post is science. I think you know that, but you’re embarrassed that you’re behaving like a complete and total fool, so you’re lashing out.

    Third, if that’s your understanding of copyright law, I cannot wait for you to steal something from a lawyer. But let me explain it simply: copyright means “the right to make a copy.” It’s right there in the name. If you don’t own something and you want to make a copy of it, you have to figure out who has the right to make a copy of it and ask them permission BEFORE YOU MAKE THE COPY. If you don’t ask permission, you’re violating their copyright.

    Am I going to make any bigger a deal out of it than I am right here? No. Why? Because I find it so hilarious that you–a person who probably wants to have sex some day–would use my picture to illustrate that you have NO IDEA how the places men like to put their penises work and thus can be suckered into believing what is so obviously untrue about them AND that you would attach your name to it.

    Some day, when people are wondering whether to fuck you, they’re going to google your name and see that article. And then they’re going to pray that you wrote it when you were twelve.

    And I am going to laugh long and hard about that, every time I get a hit from your story.

    So, really, thank you for stealing my photo. I think it’s going to amuse me for a long, long time.

  10. z6mag.com is three months old. Why would anyone consider this site an authority on anything? I guess being the 34,430th most trafficked site in the US comes with the responsibility of making sure all the little people understand how it’s done.

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  12. Li’l Joel reminds me of this one time, in band class, when these boys stole my purse, and we found one of my tampons in the water fountain.

    Fuckin’ tampons. How do they work?

  13. The link now redirects to the Google search page. I even tried to see it on the site in question. Interesting. No more page views for Aunt B!

  14. “But let me explain it simply: copyright means ‘the right to make a copy.’ It’s right there in the name. If you don’t own something and you want to make a copy of it, you have to figure out who has the right to make a copy of it and ask them permission BEFORE YOU MAKE THE COPY. If you don’t ask permission, you’re violating their copyright.”

    For me to see your photo in the first place, my computer has to make a copy of it. Am I violating your copyright by looking at your photo?

  15. Does your computer distribute it to others before you see it? Do you profit or potentially profit from that distribution? Does your computer fail to attribute the website from which you are viewing the photo? Or were you being tendentious?

  16. Go, Bridgett, Go!

    I’m hoping that the next step in this “debate” is for them to argue that my retinas are violating copyright law.

  17. “Lord, imagine if you sneeze.”

    Now I’m going to be wishing that every unexpected sneeze had vodka or whiskey coming out.

    And my eyes are rolling at the ‘discussion’ of what’s copyright and not….

  18. Maybe you can insert a chicken pox flavored lollipop into your vagina or rectum for faster delivery of the disease?

    (Yes, best comment thread ever. Just doing my little bit to help it stay lively and gross into the work week.)

  19. I’m kinda bummed that Joel gave up so early. I was waiting to see if he could top “…getting alcohol poisoning from stick this crap of their ass” for giggle-worthiness.

  20. “Does your computer distribute it to others before you see it? Do you profit or potentially profit from that distribution? Does your computer fail to attribute the website from which you are viewing the photo? Or were you being tendentious?”

    Sorry, I thought the copying was the thing. After all, it’s right there in the name.

  21. A. Mutt, if you want me to tell your computer that it had better learn a little more about how asses and vaginas work before attempting to have sex with anyone, I’m happy to.

    Otherwise, I fail to see why you’re so anxious to lump your computer in with poor Joel here. I put my photos up on my webpage so that they display on your computer when you look at my webpage. If that’s what your computer is doing with my photos, those are cool copies and authorized uses of them.

    All is well.

    If your computer then takes those copies and does something I have not granted permission for it to do with them, then yes, your computer is a copyright violating fool.

    And I will take great satisfaction in mocking it and warning it against trying that shit on a copyright lawyer.

    That seems pretty straightforward to me. And truth be told, if Joel had used my photo in the spirit of publicizing my claims of that story being bullshit, this would have played out differently.

    It was the cluelessness at every single level that called for a response.

  22. “And truth be told, if Joel had used my photo in the spirit of publicizing my claims of that story being bullshit, this would have played out differently.”

    It wouldn’t be copyright violation if he agreed with you?

  23. I know you’re just sassing me, but that’s actually an interesting question. I might have considered it fair use.

    Such are the kinds of things that keep copyright lawyers employed and another argument in favor of asking permission–you don’t want to leave it up to whether the person agrees with you as to whether she sues you.

  24. I actually had someone argue with me on Twitter recently that fair use was well defined and easy to apply. I nearly died laughing. The very first thing most journalists learn is that there ain’t no such thing as clearly defined fair use. Which is not all for the bad…but it’s not easy to apply, either.

  25. Oh wow, this is rich. I’m going to start grabbing photos from places like NBC.com and posting them on my website, and then when I get a cease and desist letter I’m going to be all, “But it’s cool, Joel Mackey says it’s totally legal! I’m linking to your website, guys! You should be HAPPY to get the free traffic!”

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