Just so you don’t have to go clicking back, here’s the post from that cutie Bob Krumm that made me have to put on my WTF?! Togs.
Just to get it out of the way, of course what West said was idiotic and shows, at the least, that he doesn’t get that “Latino” is just a term that means folks who come from or come from folks who come from Latin America, which is most of our hemisphere. No, “Latinos” don’t have a unified and uniform understanding of themselves as one people nor do they all have the same shared history of oppression. And no, they don’t all vote the same
Does that mean Krumm’s post raises a good point?
Let’s start with “I hear that attitude expressed from time to time. Usually it’s about women or blacks, and those who say it are trying to make the case that to vote for the GOP is to sell out your race or your sex.”
Bob, please, wtf?
No, to vote for the GOP as a black person or a woman is not to sell out your race or sex; it’s about voting against your own best interest. That’s why it makes no sense. The GOP is notoriously full of racists and sexists and homophobes who refuse to acknowledge not only the full claims to citizenship of minorities, women, and gays but often even the basic humanity of us.
I don’t expect other women to vote Democratic because I want those women to recognize what’s best for me. I wonder why they don’t vote Democratic in order to further their own cause.
Just as I wouldn’t expect a Mexican-American to vote Democratic just because this Republican administration is busy rounding up the parents of U.S. citizens of Mexican descent. But I would wonder why he would vote for a party that might come after him or his family.
And then you say, “What an ugly thing to say. You might as well tell someone that,’Your chromosomes and pigmentation determine whether or not you are allowed to have independent political thoughts.'” You accuse us of racism? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
And then you ask:
But if you disagree–if you are inclined to think that “real” women and “real” blacks, along with “real” Hispanics, should never vote Republican–I ask you to consider how you would respond to someone who uttered the sentiment contained in the headline of this post:
No real white man should ever vote Democrat.
It’s the same thing. It’s ugly, it’s racist, it’s sexist, and it’s wrong.
What the fuck are you talking about? “No real white man should ever vote Democrat.” It’s funny with the “real” in there, but let’s say someone just says, “No white man should ever vote Democrat.” How is the hell is that ugly, sexist, or wrong?
No, I can get how it’d be wrong in that white men have a lot of good reasons to vote Democratic. I mean, why is that sentence wrong to say?
If someone feels like the Democratic party is unfriendly to white men or advancing policies that are actively harmful to them, I think they’re ridiculous, but I don’t think it has to be inherently racist or sexist to say so. I think it’s weird that you think it would be.
There are white men. You, for instance, are a white man. Are we supposed to pretend like we don’t notice?
The problem is not and has never been that white men vote in their own interests. The problem is and has always been that white men vote in their own interests and try to pass it off as being in the best interest of the whole country.
I live for the day when “white man” is just another political group struggling to get its needs addressed by a diverse government instead of the race and gender of most everyone in charge.
As they say in wrestling, bring it on.