9 thoughts on “Yes, Yes, Roger, We Promise to Mope Tomorrow

  1. It’s not an effort to rain on your parade. It’s a fact. At least the Republicans understand they got screwed. You guys seem to be completely oblivious.

  2. Roger, you seem to be under the impression that there ever was some hope for more liberal views. I don’t believe there was. They were always going to do wrong by us. I don’t see that this changes things.

  3. Roger,

    It’s the complete opposite of what you say. We at least know what to expect with this bunch. And I’m not willing to stand back and watch Tennessee move into the dark side for what could be a long time depending on how the 2010 elections go just so that progressivism “can have a vacuum.”

  4. Gold —

    Trust me. The best chance progressivism had to gain a very real foothold on the state Democratic Party just got completely crushed. If you really think that having a Speaker Mumpower was going to be substantially worse than what you had in the past, you;re really missing a lot of things about what’s going on down there. Nashville is not Washington.

  5. That would only be the case if we managed to win again in 2010. If we lose in 2010, the Republicans will re-district the Democrats out as best they can. So even if progressivism got a better foothold, it would be impossible to elect progressives. It would be years before we’d recover. I’m not willing to sacrifice those years over this.

  6. The fact that anyone would suggest progressivism ever had a chance in this state is a crock regardless of what happened today. We were well into the Volunteer State’s equivalent of the Dark Ages in November (although the Kingston ash spill may turn some reds more purple).

    Today’s decision is not going to kill any nascent progressive movement. If Roger’s logic that it sets someone besides TNGOP up for failure holds, the patsy would be the Democratic Party, which is hardly a hotbed of the progressive movement here.

    I enjoyed today’s poke in the eye of TNGOP hubris but I fail to see how it was poking me in the eye, too. But I feel like an outsider to the Dem Party. TNDems were going to find a way to survive, and they did. If things head south, it will be the party that suffers, not the vitality of the progressive movement, unless one presumes the fallacy that movements and parties are one in the same.

  7. Wait, there are progressives in the TnDP? You sure wouldn’t know it by the way they run their state-wide campaigns. I know that there are progressives in Tennessee, but they are not capably represented within the party.

    So this is a big setback how? The “oh, if everybody suffers long enough because the other guys will surely screw us to the wall, maybe we’ve got an outside chance” thesis is a piss-poor organizing premise and I’m pleased to see people rejecting it for the lunacy that it is. The Democrats in Tennessee lost because some of them were corrupt, some of them were ineffective, and nearly all of them lacked both a distinctive persuasive message and a solid plan for change that speaks to constituent needs. When that changes, they win.

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  9. “The Democrats in Tennessee lost because some of them were corrupt, some of them were ineffective, and nearly all of them lacked both a distinctive persuasive message and a solid plan for change that speaks to constituent needs. When that changes, they win.”

    Wow, with friends like you, who needs enemies? As a “lurker” I hate to start out on the wrong foot, but….
    Bridgett, do you really believe those are the only reasons that Democrats lost in TN? Have you ever been to Williamson, Wilson or Sumner Counties? Have you been directly involved in a local or state campaign? I mean real life, not just keyboard. If you have, I apologize. Your premise sounds great, but it isn’t reality. After personally putting everything into a House race for an excellent candidate who ran a smart campaign only to see him beat by an inferior Republican candidate that refused to debate, ran a negative campaign based on abortion, guns and gays and had the support of the mega-churches I find you placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of the candidates pretty insulting. Republican Tennesseans have been voting against their own best interests and needs for several cycles now. In my neck of the woods, if you have a D behind your name, your a baby killer.

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