Think Progress Thingy for Today

I wrote about NCIS‘s Nazi Redemption episode. I talk a lot about Confederates in order to do so.


6 thoughts on “Think Progress Thingy for Today

  1. I do not watch this show, despite Mark Harmon. So let me be sure I have this straight: the person being rehabilitated is presented as a Nazi, a member of the NSDAP, not as someone who was just a poor soldier conscripted into the Wehrmacht? And he’s old enough to have been responsible for joining, not some kid who was in a required youth group or something?

  2. So, the plot is this–Old Man Gibbs is a World War II fighter pilot. While out on a mission, he gets lost or disoriented or something and he’s not going to make it back to his base alive. Then, out of nowhere, Walter (? I think his name was Walter.) appears and uses his plane to get Pa Gibbs turned around and back to safety.

    At first Regular Gibbs thinks his old man is going crazy, because Pa Gibbs insists on Regular Gibbs meeting Walter, but there was no Walter in Pa Gibbs’ unit. And then, ta da! The flashback reveals the swastika on dude’s tail. He was not in Pa Gibbs’ unit at all! He is the enemy, but how bad can he be, really, if he recognizes the fellow humanity of another pilot?

    So, I do think that they tried to leave it open to interpretation that he was a Nazi fighter pilot because what choice did he have? But, you know, when you find yourself forced to do something you find morally reprehensible, but they leave you alone in a vehicle in order to do it, your choices include running for it and offing yourself.

  3. Or, at the least, you could be a terrible fighter pilot, but they make clear that he has killed a lot of people, so he didn’t go the work slow-down route.

  4. Oh, dear. So the man is not necessarily a Nazi; he was just a pilot in the Luftwaffe. Have the people who wrote this not heard of the Battle of Britain? Let’s just say that if he was part of that, he probably had a number of occasions when he deliberately dropped whatever bombs were left over towards the end of a mission on civilian targets. But it’s OK, because at some point later on, he managed to evade the rest of his squadron (because if he’d been witnessed helping the enemy he’d have been shot after a court-martial), happen upon a lost US pilot, figure out the pilot was lost, quickly convince said pilot of his good intentions (b/c otherwise said pilot would have attacked him, instead), and guided him back to safety. And then got back to his own squadron unobserved. Yes, I’d say that if he was all that good a flyer and communicator, he would have been along for the ride with Rudolf Hess.

  5. NCIS fell off our radar a couple of years ago when we switched TiVos and I forgot to re-schedule the season pass. REading this makes me wonder if I should go back or not.

  6. I learned good-white-settlers-Manifest-Destiny-Native-Americans-just-naturally-quietly-vanish-westward as a little kid. Yeah, that’s not at all self-serving.

    I was about ten when I found a book on my mother’s shelf about something that had happened nearby long ago that painted a radically different picture. It stood my hair on end. Well, it stood my world on end. So I wrote a report about it for school and read it to the class. It stood their hair on end too. For 18 kids, Manifest Destiny as some kind of benign or noble notion ended that day.

    None of the adults knew what to tell us. My mother, who owned the book, mostly just kept responding to my questions with agreement that what I was reading was terrible. She didn’t try to make it okay for me somehow.

    Other adults mostly did try to re-assert how it was all somehow okay in the end. The overwhelming message I got was that it was mother who was acting wrongly by sticking to the message that there was something to be upset about.

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